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Theoretically, could cell become ssjg?
Topic Started: Aug 13 2015, 11:40 PM (1,140 Views)
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Although it wouldn't happen, if 5 of the earth saiyans surrounded cell and gave off the necessary energy to cell, could cell become ssjg? Im inclined to believe it as a possibility for a couple of reasons.

1. You don't have to be full saiyan to provide the necessary energy (an unborn pan was enough to give the energy and she's only 1/4 saiyan).

2.this suggests to me that if you don't have to be full saiyan to provide the necessary energy, you don't have to be full saiyan to receive it (in theory).

3. Out of all the saiyans that were used to create a ssjg, cell possesses the cells and dna of 2 said saiyans plus cells from nappa and if we're talking about the cell from the main timeline, he also absorbed trunks further instilling saiyan energy into his being.

The only thing that makes me think that being full blooded saiyan is the only way to achieve the power is goku and vegeta are the only ones who have the power. If getting this power is as easy as standing in a circle giving off energy, why hasn't Gohan, trunks and goten had it done to them as well? You'd figure if this power can help save the universe they'd all be doing it. But since such an example was never stated officially, this little point could go either way.

So what do you think? Is it possible? Or would cells design/cells from other races conflict with receiving the power up? I'm inclined to believe that it's possible. It'll obviously never happen, but under the right circumstances I can't see why it would be impossible
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If Cell can transform into a Super-Saiyan, he could do this, too.

But I'm not sure, if he can.
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One could argue (as shown by his aura in the amine) that he had super saiyan powers at his disposal all along. Very much circumstantial, there could be other reasons why he had a golden aura, but traditionally a golden aura is linked with super saiyans. I don't think we could give a definitive answer because this was never stated, but a plausible argument could be made in his favor given the evidence.

I'm talking theory of course.
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To become SSJG, he should be pure-hearted if i'm not mistaken. Then Cell would never become SSJG.
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Aug 14 2015, 12:36 AM
To become SSJG, he should be pure-hearted if i'm not mistaken. Then Cell would never become SSJG.
Ohhhhh snapppp!!!! Great point :( that throws my reasoning out the window.

Unless I try to throw a spanner in the works like this: shenron said 5 pure hearted saiyans need to instill their inner light into another. By another, does he mean another pure hearted saiyan or just another saiyan?

Does seem obvious that he means another pure hearted saiyan, but for the sake of argument let's treat this as a loop hole. If this was indeed a loop hole, could cell biologically inherit the ssjg transformation?
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Here's the real question. What is pure of heart? What's the threshold? If Vegeta can go pure (And he evidently was during the android saga, though whether pure good or evil is in question.) then in theory we should have a Super Saiyam God Super Perfect Cell on our hands. Just to play devil's advocate.
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In DB, pure-hearted seems to apply to anyone who isn't evil. Though Part I's definition is more complicated.

By IRL's logic, the only ones pure-hearted are Gohan and Goten.

1)Vegeta. Enough said.

2)Trunks. He is arrogant and his fusion has the worst personnality while Gohan is just naive.

3)Goku is a blood-knight. It shouldn't make him as pure-hearted as the manga want us to believe.

But apparently, pure-hearted = nice guy. In either case, Cell, who is one of the most evil, doesn't have any chance to be pure-hearted, no matter what.
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Theoretically, He could make 6 Cell jr. and become one.

But as others said, You have to be pure-hearted (I fail to see how Vegeta became one though.)
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Aug 14 2015, 01:26 AM
Theoretically, He could make 6 Cell jr. and become one.

But as others said, You have to be pure-hearted (I fail to see how Vegeta became one though.)
In DB, pure-hearted = good guy. Though, Kid Buu did struggled against the Genki Dama. So, he is technically pure-hearted...purely evil. Thus, I wonder if Cell being SSJG isn't possible. But he is far cry from being as evil as Buu, so...
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Aug 14 2015, 01:31 AM
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Aug 14 2015, 01:26 AM
Theoretically, He could make 6 Cell jr. and become one.

But as others said, You have to be pure-hearted (I fail to see how Vegeta became one though.)
In DB, pure-hearted = good guy. Though, Kid Buu did struggled against the Genki Dama. So, he is technically pure-hearted...purely evil. Thus, I wonder if Cell being SSJG isn't possible. But he is far cry from being as evil as Buu, so...
Ehhhh it's still a bit if a stretch to say it could work either way for pure evil as well. I think it's a pretty safe assumption to say pure hearted = good guy.

I mean, I'm just gonna come out and say it; I think if by some crazy circumstance cell became a good guy it definitely would be possible! You could argue that cells mongol dna could prohibit cell from obtaining the god ki but the way i see it (as noted in BoG) you don't need to be a full blooded saiyan to provide the necessary energy. Therefore I can't see any reason why you wouldn't have to be a full blooded saiyan to receive the necessary energy.

So, if the circumstances were right I truly believe cell could become a ssjg. However, given all we know about cells character and his design to be a ruthless evil destroyer he would never change his stripes so at the end of the day it is impossible for cell to become a super saiyan god!
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"Purity of heart" when it comes Goku to DB has less to do with him being good or evil than people think, and this is a common misconception. Toriyama stated it himself when asked about Goku's purity of heart, and he stated that his idea of purity has more to do with the way you live your life, not necessarily your moral intentions.

Goku and Vegeta are pure because they spend almost every waking moment trying to better themselves in their fighting skill. However, that's not to say that someone couldn't be pure good or evil.
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Aug 16 2015, 12:19 PM
"Purity of heart" when it comes Goku to DB has less to do with him being good or evil than people think, and this is a common misconception. Toriyama stated it himself when asked about Goku's purity of heart, and he stated that his idea of purity has more to do with the way you live your life, not necessarily your moral intentions.

Goku and Vegeta are pure because they spend almost every waking moment trying to better themselves in their fighting skill. However, that's not to say that someone couldn't be pure good or evil.
All that being said, when shenron said you need 5 saiyans of pure heart etc etc they were making an extra effort to explain how much of a better person vegeta has become. That, and shenron also made a point to discuss how the original saiyans to first become ssjg were all good people.

I see what you're getting at, don't get me wrong; but I think it has more to do with being good or evil in this case and less to do with what you're saying
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This may have just been the dub but didn't Shenron say 5 "righteous" Saiayns, not pure?
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Aug 17 2015, 01:38 AM
This may have just been the dub but didn't Shenron say 5 "righteous" Saiayns, not pure?
Righteous saiyans pure of heart, along those lines. Could be a dub issue, but it's pretty obvious what he meant
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Ok here's the real big question then. We know Vegeta isn't considered "evil" persay, at least according to Porunga anyway. However, when did he become "Pure of Heart?" We know he wasn't fully under Babidi's control during the 7th Season, meaning he actively murdered half a stadium full of people of his own free will. That is not pure of heart.
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